MMM S02E02A: Book Club, with Rosie Whitter
[ALAN and SIMON in the studio, midway through a call]
ALAN
Okay, and the gun... if the gun was behind him and the book depository was, how far away?
SIMON
A hundred and eighty feet.
ALAN
A hundred and eighty feet?
CALLER: BILL
Then the bullet would have reached the president before the sound of the bang.
ALAN
Well, that makes sense. But circling back to your theory that he was killed by... the Scottish Secret Service?
SIMON
No, that's the last guy. This is Jews.
ALAN
Ah, yes, you're saying he was killed by a gang of Jews.
CALLER: BILL
Spot-on.
ALAN
Okay, and so remind me, this is because...
CALLER: BILL
Well, let's go back to the Old Testament. If you look at the book of Exodus...
ALAN [interrupting]
I'm going to cut you short there, Bill. I think it's a fantastic, er, theory! In the meantime, if anyone wants to join our spin-off debate on ballistics and field weaponry, please head to the North Norfolk Digital chat room. I'm normally there from 3pm to the wee small hours!
[ALAN presses a JINGLE and immediately leaves the studio]
JINGLE
North Norfolk Digital is available anywhere in the world. It's global radio with an Anglian swagger! Bringing Norwich to Nigeria [Nigerian chant] Swafford to Scotland [bagpipes] and Cromer to the Kremlin ["Svenja!", gunshot].
SIMON [panicked without ALAN]
We... well...
ALAN [re-entering the studio, buckling his belt]
It's a chilling thought, though, isn't it? That Cromer might, one day, fall to the Russians.
SIMON
Sounds like a Frederick Forsyth novel in the making!
ALAN
Yeah, yeah. The Norfolk Fracture!
SIMON
The Red Peninsula.
ALAN
Yes, that sounds quite alarming, doesn't it? The seaside town of Cromer has fallen to the Russians.
SIMON
Mmm, all roads to Cromer are now closed.
ALAN
This is not a drill, repeat, this is not a drill!
SIMON
I'd read it.
ALAN
I would, I would. Music! There's some kids outside playing snowballs. But they've forgotten to put their Parkas on. It's Coldplay.
[fades up Coldplay]
ALAN
I used to have a Parka. I miss Parkas.
SIMON
You should buy one, then.
ALAN
I'm going to.
[cut to black]
ALAN
It's Thursday, which means it's Mid-Thursday Morning Matters Book Club. Or...
JINGLE
Mid-Thursday-Morning Matters Book Club.
ALAN
A virtual get-together where we talk about a book we've read that week. Saul Harris can't be with us. [SIMON stifles a laugh] So in his stead, slash shoes, we have Rosie Whitter.
ROSIE
Hello.
ALAN
Webcam voyeurs may recognise Rosie as our resident wine expert.
ROSIE
I am, indeed.
ALAN
Have you been drinking this morning?
ROSIE
No.
ALAN
A little snifter before you left the house?
ROSIE
No!
ALAN
I don't believe you! Did you bring any wine?
Oh, I do have a bottle with me.
ALAN
That's my girl! Ha ha! That's Rosie Whitter. Joining us on the phone, we have Edith in Rackheath. Hello, Edith.
CALLER: EDITH
Hello.
ALAN
And on email, we're joined by Andrew in Docking. Are you there, Andrew?
SIMON
[laptop pings] Andrew says yes.
ALAN
Excellent. And in the studio, I, Partridge. That's the club, let's get to the nub!
ROSIE
Right. Well, I've never hosted a book club quite like this.
ALAN
It's no exaggeration to say that this is the very first multi-platform, radio-based book club broadcast in the whole of East Anglia.
SIMON
We're dragging book clubs into the 21st century, kicking and screaming!
ROSIE
Sounds painful!
ALAN
Not like an abduction, more like a child who doesn't want to be measured for new shoes. Rosie.
ROSIE
Right. So the book to read this week was Wild Swans by Jung Chang. And I hope you've all managed to finish it.
[ALAN reaches for his book, The Wild Geese by Daniel Carney... until Rosie says Wild Swans and he realises his mistake]
ALAN
Yeah, we have. And if you haven't, just order it off Amazon.
SIMON
Or a different website that pays its taxes.
ALAN
Come on, come on, it's a good business model. Cheap books, happy shareholders, and the boss is stinking rich. Hats off.
SIMON
With questionable practices.
ALAN
Simon, you can't please all the people all the time! That's what China tried to do, and look what happened there. Now you can only have one baby and if it's a girl, tough luck!
ROSIE
Which moves us nicely on to Wild Swans...
ALAN
Does it? Yeah. [to SIMON] Next, you'll be complaining that Amazon make people in their warehouses run too quickly to fetch books. It's not a call centre in Timbuktu! They're students, you can't mistreat students.
ROSIE
All that running around! You could do with a bit of that, Alan. Help you lose a few pounds! [pats ALAN's stomach]
ALAN [forcibly moving ROSIE's hand away]
Off! But Rosie makes a good point. You would slow down deliveries in the short term, but in the long term you tackle one of the biggest killers of our times.
SIMON
Shipman?
ALAN
Obesity.
SIMON
You could have them running around for books that don't exist. Babysitting by King Herod.
ROSIE
Marriage Guidance by Henry VIII.
ALAN
Or Losing at Squash Gracefully by Anne Diamond! Ha-ha. He-he! So do get in touch if you have any other ideas, because I'm going to make unlikely book titles today's quality question.
JINGLE [gruff Cockney man]
Oh, that is quality!
ALAN
Well, it looks like Mummy Pea and Baby Pea have finally pushed Daddy Pea too far. It's the Black-Eyed Peas!
[cut to black]
ALAN [now with a glass of red wine]
Quick clarification, there's been some panic at a care home with listeners worried that Russia has taken over Cromer. That's my fault for making it sound like a news report. The Russians have not taken over Cromer!
SIMON
That we know of!
ALAN
Not- Ah, yes. I mean, they could have infiltrated the council years ago!
SIMON
It would certainly explain their attitude to parking enforcement!
ALAN
Yeah, well, that's more Nazis, isn't it? But it's all evil. It's all evil. Wild Swans, Rosie. It's a long book.
ROSIE
Well, it is substantial. Yes. So Wild Swans follows the lives of three generations of Chinese women. It's a true story of Jung Chang and her mother and her grandmother.
ALAN
Well, that's certainly what I took from it.
ROSIE
Well, that's what it's about!
ALAN
No, I mean, absolutely spot on. Spot on. But let's keep talking.
ROSIE
So, first impressions?
ALAN
Let me stop you and go to Edith. What do you think?
CALLER: EDITH
Three for me.
ALAN
Okay. Anything from Andrew yet, Simon?
SIMON
No, not yet. But I gave it a three. And I've got a few fours coming in via text. I've got Meredith in Hunstanton, says 4.5... And Cynthia says she would also give it a three.
SIMON
Sorry, I'm not familiar...
ALAN
Out of five, always out of five. So average it out, Simon. And what's the mean score?
SIMON
Done it, it's three-point-six.
ALAN
There you go! Three point six, not bad! So that was Wild Geese, the fascinating story...
ROSIE
Swans!
ALAN
...Swans, my mistake, about four generations of Chinese women.
ROSIE
Three generations
ALAN
Is it?
CALLER: EDITH
It was, it was three.
[SIMON's laptop pings]
ALAN
My mistake.
SIMON
Andrew's saying two.
ALAN
What, generations?
SIMON
No, I think that's his score... I think.
ALAN
Andrew, is that your score or the number of generations of Chinese women you think it is? [to ROSIE] It'll just be a second. [to SIMON] Can you email him? Is that your score or the number of generations of Chinamen? Got to move on!
[cut to black]
ALAN
The time is A-M-one-one. Our thanks to Beverly in King's Lynn, she sent in a beef sponge. She says it's a great way to use up bits of old beef. It's essentially chunks of beef suspended in a kind of matrix of pastry. Sort of hovering in a...
SIMON
Sponge stasis.
ALAN
Yeah, good name for the dish, actually. Sponge stasis, brackets beef edition. It looks almost as good as last week's chicken drizzle cake. Maybe have some of that later.
JINGLE [Alan's voice, street vernacular]
Partridge! He got game!
ALAN
Okay, before that, The Book Club. Rosie...
ROSIE
Hi.
ALAN
...Edith...
CALLER: EDITH
Hello
ALAN
...and Andrew.
[laptop pings]
ALAN
We were discussing Wild Swans, a book that garnered an impressive three-point-six!
SIMON
And Andrew has given the book a two, by the way, and says Edith must have been reading a different book.
CALLER: EDITH
He always does this. My score is nothing to do with him.
ALAN
Right.
CALLER: EDITH
It's a bit pathetic, actually.
ALAN
Oh. Rosie, three point six. A fair score?
ROSIE
Hard to say. At the book club I run, we try to avoid scoring or ranking books.
ALAN
Right, so it's more of a coffee morning?
ROSIE
No, no, no. We do discuss the book, but we focus more on how we thought or felt. Ranking can be a little reductive.
ALAN
Well, it can be, but you might like to know that Wild Swans ranked number two on our book league table.
ROSIE
Oh?
ALAN
Yeah, a nose ahead of Angels and Demons by Dan Brown, but a whisker behind The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown. So you split the Browns.
SIMON
A Brown sandwich.
ALAN
Yeah, it sounds like something Beverly would knock out. Right, Wild Swans.
ROSIE
Yes.
ALAN
Brian in Dersingham emails to say, "Who on earth wants to read a book about Chinese swans?"
ROSIE
It's a metaphor.
ALAN
"...A far better book is The Wild Geese, about a snatch-squad of steel-hard mercenaries who rescue a black king or something from deepest, darkest Africa". [laptop pings] Thanks, Brian. Always good to hear from you!
[video glitch]
ALAN
Butter old women?
SIMON
Bitter old woman, I think. Typing too fast.
ALAN
Yeah, although you can butter up old women. I sometimes butter up old women. [winks to ROSIE]
CALLER: EDITH
Andrew is just a bully who hides behind his laptop. How come he never dares speak on the phone? What's he got to hide?
SIMON
He could be an eight-year-old boy. Child genius.
ALAN
Yeah, angry because he's been hot-housed by his parents.
ROSIE
Does happen. Denied a childhood.
ALAN
Yeah, Andrew, if that is you, get outside. Climb a few trees.
SIMON
Pull a few wheelies!
ROSIE
Scuff your knees!
ALAN
Yeah, collect loads of chewing gum wrappers and send off for a free torch. Sorry, Rosie, you were saying?
ROSIE
No, I was just saying, I think the swans is a metaphor for the women.
ALAN
I love metaphors! I really got into them a couple of years ago, and now if I read a title that's too literal, it actually annoys me! I mean, if I went to see Moonraker, I don't want to see James Bond actually raking the moon. Unless he had some sort of industrial equipment, and even then, he's going to need a damn good reason!
ROSIE
I think the wild swans is a strong metaphor. I mean, there's something impassive and hard to read about swans, isn't there? Like the women, they're beautiful, but they're unknowable.
ALAN
They're inscrutable.
ROSIE
That's exactly the right word.
ALAN [pleased]
Is it?
ROSIE
Yes.
ALAN
Thank you.
SIMON
You couldn't scrute them if you wanted to!
ALAN
Don't ruin it! Let's have some music. This is Thatcher Pop four-piece Duran Duran. [fades up record and takes a long drink of wine] It's got a smashing flavour!
[cut to black]
ALAN
Still here with book club leader, Rosie Whitter.
ROSIE
Hello!
ALAN
I just love reading books. It's brilliant, isn't it?
ROSIE
I couldn't live without it.
ALAN
I couldn't either. My partner, Angela, prefers television. I mean, she will watch literally anything. But if I go up and ask her what she's been watching, she doesn't know. Odd.
ROSIE
Well, it's a good book for me every time. Curl up on the sofa.
SIMON
Yes, take the phone off the hook.
ALAN
Yeah, maybe a tower of hot-buttered trumpets, sleeping bag tied off around your waist.
SIMON
Like a giant maggot.
ALAN
Yeah, well, half a maggot, because the other half's a... Warwick University sweatshirt.
ROSIE
And no interruptions.
ALAN
Perhaps the strains of Jean-Michel Jarre haunting you from the music centre. I mean it's on, there's nothing paranormal. And then just plough headlong into Wild Swans. News.
[off-air]
ALAN
I did actually plough into a swan many years ago. Yeah, it's the only time I've actually ever heard a swan quack.
[cut to black]
ALAN [now slightly tipsy with a half eaten sponge stasis in front of him, heburps]
Pardon me. It's mid-Thursday... It's mid-morning...It's mid... He does it.
JINGLE
Mid Thursday Morning Matters Book Club.
[ALAN continues tucking into the sponge stasis]
ROSIE
So, any final thoughts? What did you take from the book? Alan?
ALAN
I read the book. I thought it was a good book. It's about people, isn't it? Chinese women with small feet. And what's all that about?
ROSIE
Well, it's all explained in the book.
ALAN
Shit, I haven't read the book. I'm sorry. Are you angry?
ROSIE
No! Not at all! We all find some books heavy going. I myself actually gave up on the diary of Anne Frank on my first attempt. I couldn't get through it.
SIMON
Then again, neither could she.
ALAN
You're angry. Have some beef, swans.
[ALAN slides the sponge stasis over to ROSIE, cut to black]
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